Posted by d tyler huff on February 23, 1997 at 16:18:27:
In Reply to: Deleuze & the dialectic posted by Sam Binkley on June 07, 1996 at 18:20:23:
: Hello to Rainer and all. can I submit a comment? I quess so.
: It seems to me that the essay on Sacher Masoch is
: less an effort to " de-idealize psychoanalysis,
: to make the same operation with psychoanalysis as
: Karl Marx had made with Hegel" than it is to fuck
: with Hegel's dialectic on a deeper level. Deleuze's
: quarrel with the dialectic is more in the spirit
: of Bataille and Nietzsche's anti dialecticism than
: marx's materialism. The reason I say this is that
: Marx's materialist critique of Hegel maintians the
: structure of the dialectic, he just sees it in a
: materialist history of production rather than the
: movement of historical world spirit, bla bla bla.
: sacher Masoch is not Hegel per se, but Freud
: applies a dialectical notion of power and
: eroticism in interpretting a "sado-masochistic"
: subject. This is what Deleuze wants to attack.
: For Deleuze, Freud's sado-masochistic couple
: resemble Hegels's Lord-Bondsman, and he wants to
: disrupt this tidy dialectical reciprocity.
: I don't think he really makes a critique of
: psychoanalysis per se (at least not to my mind a
: strong enough one), and he certainly doesn't
: "stand Freud on his head" rather, he continues a
: criticism of Hegel which continues to obsess
: french theory today, and begins the "schizophrenic"
: stuff he is to develop in anti oedipus.
: sb.
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